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PostSubject: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:59 pm

this boom is mostly wood trade related and very formidable for a native combo.

imperial upgrades on everything!

all other upgrades completely done!

no stone is left unturned in this except for 1 possibly 2 slight timing issues. i felt like the boom was solid so i decided to light a smoke and a bank build wasnt done right on que.

like always enjoy! i know i did in making it for the community.

if the title is slightly off its cuz i didnt watch it after it was done.

http://www.fileden.com/getfile.php?file_path=http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/2/10/1750731/BuZz_D%20Dutch%202040.age3Yrec


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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:28 pm

Congratz on a completely useless boom, even with natives you won't have enough coin to win an artillery war with this and will get drained very fast because there's no way to properly fight without a balanced enough eco to actually make an army that will win..
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:23 pm

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Congratz on a completely useless boom, even with natives you won't have enough coin to win an artillery war with this and will get drained very fast because there's no way to properly fight without a balanced enough eco to actually make an army that will win..
i own u any way i choose to boom with dutch. lol! or ill just upgrade what dutch uses most and it will total 30-40-20.

is that better?
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:46 pm

Buck the System wrote:
Brett wrote:
Congratz on a completely useless boom, even with natives you won't have enough coin to win an artillery war with this and will get drained very fast because there's no way to properly fight without a balanced enough eco to actually make an army that will win..
i own u any way i choose to boom with dutch. lol! or ill just upgrade what dutch uses most and it will total 30-40-20.

is that better?

You seem to think I give a flying fuck about your Dutch boom being higher in score than mine? For fucks sake I can do 1900 without even using wood trade, every important unit upgraded, approx. 30K food and 30K coin, with 8K wood.

Tell me which will win in fighting? -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:54 pm

Buck the System wrote:
Brett wrote:
Congratz on a completely useless boom, even with natives you won't have enough coin to win an artillery war with this and will get drained very fast because there's no way to properly fight without a balanced enough eco to actually make an army that will win..
i own u any way i choose to boom with dutch. lol! or ill just upgrade what dutch uses most and it will total 30-40-20.

is that better?

you cant even beat liuts with your dutch lol
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:46 pm

oh come on guys. its one thing to be mean to buzz when he deserves it (frequently) but he didn't even say anything rude or obnoxious yet. you guys just start harping on every little thing. yeah his boom isn't entirely realistic, but its not bad and he has some interesting ideas. if you want to be mean to him wait like 5 more posts and I'm sure he'll give you a good reason, but if you guys start being jerks without provocation you're being just as bad as you accuse buzz of.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:51 pm

This boom is both unrealistic AND not innovative, the age 2 bank strategy has been around since TWC, it's old news.

Besides, the only reason he posts these booms is because he constantly wants to show how good he is at this game, while failing to realise that score means jack if you can't win militarily. Booms like this don't educate anyone or help anyone because they are unrealistic point-whoring booms that couldn't be used properly in a real game.

Every strategy I've ever posted I considered usable in a real game, even if it could be distributed differently for better play. Almost none of Buzz's are realistic, his Ottoman boom would loose him a mirror with no real concrete advantage in 1v1 (his eco isn't significantly higher to justify being behind 2 cards to a proper trickle boom, which is going to get your army crushed due to having better units), his Dutch booms are unrealistic and non-functional in actual games because of the amount of wood he trades and the boom cards he uses, which put him behind militarily, again a large disadvantage, etc.

Buzz tries to improve himself by posting booms and focusing on booming instead of focusing on what truly matters: Micro, macro, strategy, teamwork and military power.

If I'm being a dick to him it's because I'm sick of him thinking he's doing anything useful for anyone with strategies like this. Build some sane, realistic booms, with military power at 40, sure you won't get high scores, but then I won't dismiss your strategies for being useless in a real game, when they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:27 pm

^^^^^i wont even bother reading it.

see what i mean. i post good quality stuff for this site and the trash swarms and brings it down. dont be jealous if im better than you. anyday i am. mistakes happen and sure you might win but you are not in my league.

someone with some authority should boot all your asses from trt. your complete garbage. you have nothing to be constructive about anywhere here.

you 3, possibly 4 are pathetic!

its a boom, nothing more, nothiung less! i get to 2k no matter what way i chosse to get there as all my recordings show. 3 different dutch booms ive shown 2k and still you think you have a voice.

i think peeps maybe will start to see who's really bringing the site down.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:40 pm

If you're not going to bother reading it, then don't reply. I gave you constructive criticism: This boom is completely unrealistic and will not work in a real game.

Also Buzz, YOU have no influence over TRT, you apparently have not noticed that, Savory is an Officer, the rest of us have earned respect within the clan by being good players with respectful attitudes to each other (for the most part, Savory used to get a bit more hot-headed, as did I, but we've calmed down a lot).

The fact you cannot just admit you're wasting our time with these useless booms instead of posting real games, with actual proper gameplay in it and will not even READ our comment's is what makes you a joke.

Also, it's not just us that think you're a pain in the ass, it's pretty much the entire treaty community above the rank of Captain, they're just less vocal about it than us, no one cares how nice of a boom you get if you act like a dick, fight like crap and blame your team every single time you loose a team game.

(BTW, Why didn't you get 2K in your Dutch mirror? Oh wait because you can't do that in a real game, but feel free to drum up some excuses to explain why)
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:05 pm

see? i told you he'd give you a good reason to be mean to him lol!
i mean come on buzz you didn't even read it... and I'm 95% sure you're not better than Brett... your booms are interesting but there's no need to brag and show off, especially when they aren't really realistic... damn you're hard to defend. i give up Rolling Eyes
and can i ask wft is this smiley bom ? is someone pouring orange juice on his head? is it a candle? a bomb? a feather?
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:08 am

that's a lot of score
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:35 am

Freet0 wrote:

and can i ask wft is this smiley bom ? is someone pouring orange juice on his head? is it a candle? a bomb? a feather?

I think he's wearing an omelet on a stick as a toupet.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:24 pm

Big score, but as brett said its a useless score...

Score < Balance Smile

Shouldnt post useless booms for the people who want to learn IMO...Its like leading a blind person right into a wall...Not cool...
bom
And the word for that thing is "bom" ?
But i think toms idea is better Smile
omelette ftw!
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:13 pm

cmontuptim wrote:
Big score, but as brett said its a useless score...

Score < Balance Smile

Shouldnt post useless booms for the people who want to learn IMO...Its like leading a blind person right into a wall...Not cool...
bom
And the word for that thing is "bom" ?
But i think toms idea is better Smile
omelette ftw!
man you are clueless. play dutch and youll see.

not long ago tuur was the dutch guy to ask, and all were ok with that. now i own all his previous stuff and i get trashed. i dont care what rank those guys are, they know rank is crap and mine decayed so now im just out there waiting to own u chumps!

freeto or whatever your name is, u havent a clue. i know pi best civs and i will own any of them with germany. he knows that thats why he pested me.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Buck the System wrote:
cmontuptim wrote:
Big score, but as brett said its a useless score...

Score < Balance Smile

Shouldnt post useless booms for the people who want to learn IMO...Its like leading a blind person right into a wall...Not cool...
bom
And the word for that thing is "bom" ?
But i think toms idea is better Smile
omelette ftw!
man you are clueless. play dutch and youll see.

not long ago tuur was the dutch guy to ask, and all were ok with that. now i own all his previous stuff and i get trashed. i dont care what rank those guys are, they know rank is crap and mine decayed so now im just out there waiting to own u chumps!

freeto or whatever your name is, u havent a clue. i know pi best civs and i will own any of them with germany. he knows that thats why he pested me.

tuur was the dutch guy because he knew how to fucking fight with them and boom with them, not one part of it. also hes not a egotistical douche who things hes a fucking god at this game. people pest you because your a tit and no one wants to waste their time with a blowhard, just go away no one wants you here
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:57 pm

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freeto or whatever your name is, u havent a clue. i know pi best civs and i will own any of them with germany. he knows that thats why he pested me.
lol I've never claimed to be an expert, or revolutionary boomer or w/e. I'm an average 1st lieut and I admit i suck as dutch. My point was that you inevitably piss people off and show off way to much.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:50 pm

ahahaha buzz there is NO way u can compare yourself to tuur!
and hell, i will eat my hat if you beat PI with ANY civ!
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:54 pm

Buck the System wrote:
cmontuptim wrote:
Big score, but as brett said its a useless score...

Score < Balance Smile

Shouldnt post useless booms for the people who want to learn IMO...Its like leading a blind person right into a wall...Not cool...
bom
And the word for that thing is "bom" ?
But i think toms idea is better Smile
omelette ftw!
man you are clueless. play dutch and youll see.

not long ago tuur was the dutch guy to ask, and all were ok with that. now i own all his previous stuff and i get trashed. i dont care what rank those guys are, they know rank is crap and mine decayed so now im just out there waiting to own u chumps!

freeto or whatever your name is, u havent a clue. i know pi best civs and i will own any of them with germany. he knows that thats why he pested me.

wondering why u pest me then hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:57 pm

savorybeef wrote:
Buck the System wrote:
cmontuptim wrote:
Big score, but as brett said its a useless score...

Score < Balance Smile

Shouldnt post useless booms for the people who want to learn IMO...Its like leading a blind person right into a wall...Not cool...
bom
And the word for that thing is "bom" ?
But i think toms idea is better Smile
omelette ftw!
man you are clueless. play dutch and youll see.

not long ago tuur was the dutch guy to ask, and all were ok with that. now i own all his previous stuff and i get trashed. i dont care what rank those guys are, they know rank is crap and mine decayed so now im just out there waiting to own u chumps!

freeto or whatever your name is, u havent a clue. i know pi best civs and i will own any of them with germany. he knows that thats why he pested me.

tuur was the dutch guy because he knew how to fucking fight with them and boom with them, not one part of it. also hes not a egotistical douche who things hes a fucking god at this game. people pest you because your a tit and no one wants to waste their time with a blowhard, just go away no one wants you here

tuur was good but i defeat him in dutch mirror even thou he had 200 points more than i, in score
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:53 pm

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tuur was good but i defeat him in dutch mirror even thou he had 200 points more than i, in score


lol

I find that hard to believe.......I won't say why...
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:43 pm

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yomama wrote:

tuur was good but i defeat him in dutch mirror even thou he had 200 points more than i, in score


lol

I find that hard to believe.......I won't say why...

i posted the record in t kc website and in the trt old site too, u dont have to belive e, u have to watch it.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:58 am

For some reason Ivan really likes posting under Yomama's account and NOT his own, I have that record of Ivan beating Tuur on my hard drive.
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:33 am

ummmmm, i beat tuur way back to keep my officer spot when i was trt. ohhhhh how quickly evreryone forgets. i was a marked man even back then. ibeat tuur then ivan to keep my spot. i lost a crappy game to kose. heck after 2 huge wins i was bound for a let down. it happens all the time, even in sport.

chew on that savory!
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:41 am

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ahahaha buzz there is NO way u can compare yourself to tuur!
and hell, i will eat my hat if you beat PI with ANY civ!
i said he can use any civ. ill own him with germany. read lil man read!
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PostSubject: Re: Dutch 2040 23-38-10   Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:52 am

Buck the System wrote:
ummmmm, i beat tuur way back to keep my officer spot when i was trt. ohhhhh how quickly evreryone forgets. i was a marked man even back then. ibeat tuur then ivan to keep my spot. i lost a crappy game to kose. heck after 2 huge wins i was bound for a let down. it happens all the time, even in sport.

chew on that savory!

ohh wow you beat someone once good for you... ive beaten sandy before does that mean im better than he is?
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